Mob Rule at Digg »
Posted by: Ousama 1 year, 6 months agoSomehow, I don't think the "social bookmarking" model is supposed to operate like this. The idea behind an ostensibly non-partisan site like Digg.com is that people submit links to interesting things, and other people rate the links, so that interesting stuff gets more votes and rises to the top.
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1-2-Oscar1 year, 6 months ago
The same crowd has driven many intelligent and thoughtful people away from Netscape. Such people must have a very thick skin to withstand the abuse directed at them by those who insist upon political conformity here.
Unfortunately, I don't expect either site to improve in this regard. At Digg there are no effective controls, while at Netscape some of the worst abusers are paid employees of the site.
"Social bookmarking" initially created a sense of enthusiasm among people who thought that they were being allowed to be part of the discussion process. As these activist types are gradually more successful in excluding independent thought, the "social bookmarking" rage surely dies. Very few are strong enough to withstand the personal attacks and vituperation, and the few activists will eventually end up talking only to themselves.
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1-2-Oscar1 year, 6 months ago
Look, stupid, there is absolutely no way your conclusion could have derived from what I posted. Are you trying to offer an example of the unwarranted abuse I referred to above.
The fact is that you can review every post I have made here since July 3, 2006, and you will find no derogatory remarks about homosexuals, no advocacy of any measures to suppress homosexuals, and certainly no references to "hell" or to divine retribution concerning homosexuals. Generally, I am supportive of full rights for all people.
Comments like yours are intended to link me with something that I am not. In this fashion you try to intimidate and silence anyone with whom you disagree. There is apparently no limit to your dishonesty and intellectual vacuity.
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Aidenag1 year, 6 months ago
Is it just me, or is a site that has registration restricted forums, and does not allow opposing views, calling Digg bias hypocritical? One cannot even join their site to comment an opposing view.
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nottinghills1 year, 6 months ago
Well. Hmm. Digg makes less than 1% of what google makes. So why does anyone care so much. They are great sites, both digg and netscape! They are fun! We should be more concerned about who controls what's in Google!
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snowman36r1 year, 6 months ago
I agree with you 1-2 oscar, with in the next few years sites like Digg and netscape will be passing fads. Digg because of thier mob rule mentality and netscape because of thier anchors holyer then thou attitudes towards any poster they don't agree with or which ever poster is the flavor of the month to flex their banning mussles on. Digg I don't use very much and netscape only very rarely now, it seems they have chased off or banned there better posters and posters that could accually debate. It will only be a matter of time before their advertisors take notice and start bailing on them.
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mark-stevens1 year, 6 months ago
Try Youtube... you don't disappear, they threaten to hack you, and there is no where to report them to Youtube.
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nottinghills1 year, 6 months ago
People with 15,000 friends, just have too much power in their votes. But hey, doesn't matter to me. One thing that's inaccurate about this post, is there is no "group" of people. Everyone works alone.
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INDYANKK1 year, 6 months ago
Digg is one of the worst social bookmarking sites...Netscape, alarmingly, seem to be following the footsteps of Digg... :(
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TheAttacks1 year, 6 months ago
See, that's why Digg is having a problem with political news. The stories are buried because one side disagrees, but instead of just having a "I disagree" vote (like our Sink system), the story is actually deemed bad content by their algorithm and removed from the site promptly.
"It's a leftist totalitarian dreamworld. They simply exclude any and all points of view that violate the groupthink-and call it "democracy.""
And, as for this part, I sadly have to disagree. You want democracy, you got it. The majority rules in any democracy, and it just so happens that the majority of Digg users are "leftist" (as the author puts it).
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TheAttacks1 year, 6 months ago
There is a lot of speculation that there are these "secret groups" pushing political agendas. There might be, but what I am saying is it is far more probably that the majority of Digg users are liberal, which makes conservative material unpopular with Digg users.
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nottinghills1 year, 6 months ago
I just use digg/netscape so I can see what my friends are interested in. AND they can see what I submit/vote and I can see what they submit/vote. It's much hipper than myspace, IMHO. Most the stories that make front page, I don't even read. In fact, I didn't even read this story. :-) Some are cool though. Netscape is nice, because you can go exactly where your friends comment.
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okitech1 year, 6 months ago
sounds like someone got their feelings hurt. honestly we need a whine catag for netscape. it should be obviuos that politics should not go into a grass roots site such as digg. digg was born for technology related posts. The originating story was a New York AP item and the dude just copied into his own "blog" and added nothing of value to the original story. if I see something like that it gets a sink from me as well irregardless of the topic. now stop whining and get original or get a thick skin
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moortiez1 year, 6 months ago
The real point here is that right wingers cannot condone anyone disagreeing with them, particularly if it turns out that a solid MAJORITY of people disagree. When that happens, the usual whining and crying like spoiled little girls happens. "Waaagh! people are being mean to us" Wake up, douchebags. Look at the polls. A solid majority of americans disagrees with you on everthing from the iraq war to global warming to evolution vs. I.D. and even your stance on immigration. In the next elections, you are going to be marginalized further down the food chain than repigf*ckin's ever have been. Not a moment too soon for me. You are about to suffer a multi generational shunning by the american people, mostly because "retail" politics are dead in the US, mainly because of the internet. Have fun whining and screaming to yourselves, with no-one listening, because that is how it is gonna be by 2008.
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1-2-Oscar1 year, 6 months ago
You overestimate the effect of the internet. Joe Trippi set up a network to support Howard Dean during the 2004 primaries. The mainstream media declared that "this is the NEW DIRECTION of American politics." But the vaunted impact of the internet never materialized, and Dean got trounced in Iowa and elsewhere and finally folded his tent and went home.
"The people," you see, are neither so naive nor so gullible as you believe. They know that it is a relatively simple matter to import address lists and build a database of poltential voters, and that such data can be used for repetitive mass mailings. That doesn't mean that a "majority" supports the position being pushed by the mailer--it just means that the voters get more spam. And they know how to recognize spam.
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Neophile1 year, 6 months ago
With all due respect to the mainstream media, they don't get to declare jack squat anymore about the direction of politics. That's up to the people now.
They were blind-sided by blogs. More recently they were blind-sided by YouTube. Everyone has the tools at their fingertips nowadays to make a difference in the direction of politics. We'll take it from here, thanks.
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nakedtruth1 year, 6 months ago
I don't know what is more pathetic. The whining from the miserable facists at littlegreenfootballs or all of the "anti digg" stories that show up at Netscape while Netscape tries to be more "digg like" every day. (Case in point the "bury" feature). Hey, digg is an open website (unlike littlegreenfootballs) and anyone can join and vote. If the LGF jokers think that they're being "swarmed" by "leftists" they can always get their gazillions of readers to "swarm back" and up their votes.
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GregD1 year, 6 months ago
We don't have a "bury" feature here. We do have a "sink" feature which does nothing more then register your disapproval of the submission (or whatever else you'd like to use it for) and mark it in a gray color for the sinker only. It has no other functionality like digg's bury feature, so using that as a "case in point" kind of falls flat.....
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SusanParrish1 year, 6 months ago
"We do have a "sink" feature which does nothing more then register your disapproval of the submission (or whatever else you'd like to use it for) and mark it in a gray color for the sinker only. It has no other functionality like digg's bury feature"
Doesn't it in fact gray out the story for everyone if it hits a majority of "sinks"? That sounds pretty much the same, the majority gets to "color" how other users view the story.
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moortiez1 year, 6 months ago
yeah fox. Let's "have fun" YAY!!! ha ha! supporting the war gets "libruls" angry!!
I have an idea..... Let's do what is best for the country and all the people within, instead of trying to ****** off the "other ones" for jollies and laughs!
I am dead serious when I say that the bushco fascists need to be prosecuted for war crimes and treason, and do not care a bit how apoplectic it makes you repigf*ckin' fascist wannabees, it is just the icing on the cake. I would be much happier if you agreed with me, then we could do what is right and move the country on from this, the worst presidency in it's history.
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braveone1 year, 6 months ago
the little minds at digg can "bury" dissenting views,
they"re not to big on competitive input,
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TheAttacks1 year, 6 months ago
They have a much larger reader base and a lot of the people there don't really read the content that they vote for.
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NoSpinDave1 year, 6 months ago
My question is, if these people are really interested in making educated decisions based on all the facts, they why do they feel its necessary to silence opposing viewpoints? I can totally understand disagreeing with opposing viewpoints, but to silence them suggests nothing more than likeminded groupthink is acceptable.
The irony is how often we hear from the left about how the government does not tell the truth or how its involved in this conspiracy or that, but when put in a position of power what do they do with it.....they silence all opposing views as quickly as possible. Scarry. Very scarry.
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MikeReardon1 year, 6 months ago
I've have seen and been in politically correct comments on netscape that have been real expressions of the opposition to Bush Administration handling of the war. Getting 116 comments all set in one direction against an issue are not debate, but they are information that defines the position against that issue. This is not a great place to form real debate, stories getting up to 608 comments that cover 17 different subjects not related in any way to the story posted make it hard to follow real comments. This is about getting a chance to communicate your ideas, Diggs 'burys' may have been born like netscape block but as a group stop, but killing comments and stories with 'burys' and deletions is not the best of democratic discussion. The other side always needs to come back against your position.
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INDYANKK1 year, 6 months ago
I would call Digg as an Antisocial bookmarking site.There are some antisocial elements working 24 hours a day(probably this is a group that has offshore presence as well) to promote their stories to homepage.Also they make sure that other stories are buried before they can find a place in the Home page.
But I am not sure whether this group is close to the Digg "family".I hope that those element don't find a back door to netscape.Netscape should remain vigilant.
I see this group working at reditt as well.A few stories hitting the home page at digg also gets to the homepage of reditt.Some of the stories are good but there are few others, that aren't worth a read, hitting the homepage of Digg and reditt.This creates the suspicion that the antisocial group is active at both the sites.
But one thing for sure - any story against Kevin Rose gets buried forever at Digg.
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